2.13 "Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough"
Aired Feb 08, 2006
Roundtable Reviews
misskiwi: I'm going to admit right up front that "Clash of the Tritons" is one of my favorite episodes of the series, so anything reminiscent of it gets gold stars from me.
alliterator: I agree, misskiwi. This ep had lots of pep and was packed full of continuity. And Logan kept his ambiguity while romancing that other blonde and now I will respond to other comments. And Dick should try abstinence.
funky-donut: I really enjoyed this episode, like, a lot. I loved that it was mostly set at the Carnival, that Veronica had to solve the mystery "real-time," and that, for once, I didn't figure out the twist ahead of time!
topanga: What I loved about this episode is that it appeared, on the surface, to be a somewhat lighter episode. But underneath it all, it still had all of the noir and surprises that make Veronica Mars the show I know and love.
Polter-Cow: Did someone call for a dissenter? Because here I am! I thought the episode was weak, even though it had a lot of things going for it. The episode was not up to Diane's usual standard. She did concoct a very twisty-turny MotW with lots of false leads and red herrings and unexpected subplots, but it lacked focus. There wasn't enough drive, and the dots weren't being connected together strongly enough. The jokes weren't as zippy. Yay for the gobs of continuity, though (even a random "Girl Next Door" callback!).
marks of love: I didn't order a dissenter, I ordered a veggie pizza. Freakin' Round Table. This episode was fun, snappy, and above all, REFRESHING. It was like...watching vacation. Mmm. *rolls around in it* Snerkalicious!
chris1010: Nice well-planned MotW, combined with continuity goodness and a nice twist in the end, make up a very enjoyable episode.
misskiwi: Might as well get this out of the way before we move to more rational discussion: marks, alliterator, anyone else, let the squeeing over Mac/Cassidy and Wallace/Jane begin...nnnnnnow.
alliterator: I feel I must explain my love for Jane: she's cute but not plain, always uses her brain, and her last name isn't "Kane." Long live the reign of Jane!
marks of love: SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMG MACASSIDY SO CUTE AND ADORABLE AND PERFECT OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!1111
topanga: Any courageous soul who squees over Wallace and anybody is at high risk for losing a tonsil.
marks of love: But WALLACE/JANE IS SO CUTE OMG. Granted, we don't know a damn thing about her, but I just want to squeeze her rosy little cheeks. Also, I know there have been concerns that Wallace would never date outside of his race (and, on the flipside, that all the black girls on the show seem to be Token Wallace Love Interests), but it's now clear that his fantasies of a blonde dragging him into a bathroom aren't entirely in vain. Come on, Jane, make up for Veronica's deep lack of romance!
topanga: *withdraws hands from marks's throat only because she made a good point*
grim squeaker: Yeah, I find this deeply embarrassing, and no one's ever going to call me on it, okay? Because deep down in me, a tiny, cynical mouse is puking now, but...OMG, Mac and Beaver were so unbelievably cute!!! Erm, yeah, carry on now, while I go beat up some menacing guys in a bar or something to get back my hardened image. (Oh, and while we are at it, I know Dick meant it differently, but "gerbils in love" was kind of cool. I like gerbils. They are...fluffy. And cute. Everyone should have a gerbil. Hey, maybe "Sally" was one? Drifting off topic here.)
marks of love: I LOVE MAC AND BEAVER SO MUCH OMG. Sounds fun...'cause it is! Oh, you crazy kids.
Polter-Cow: Mac and Beaver were ADORABLE. Wallace and Jane were...THERE. But Jane is cute! I need more Jane!
wyk: Aww. And to think, if Madison and Mac weren't switched at birth, the current Mac might have been the one who turns down Dick's offer of a quickie and the current Madison might be the one making googly eyes at Beaver while he tries to fix the snow cone machine. Those four should go on a double date!
marks of love: I don't believe I have sufficiently expressed my joy. Mac. Cassidy. Clever, ambitious, precious. Future rulers of the world. Comeuppance-dispensers to Dick. Makers of "Boston Gasm" jokes. Holders of hands (omggsdjkfhasiohdkjasd!!!!111). BRINGERS OF PURE SHINY BLISS. EEEEEEEEEEE.
misskiwi: And...scene.
alliterator: Not yet. Beaver? You better never leave 'er.
misskiwi: I think this was one of the most enjoyable MotWs this year so far. Veronica's "Ta DAAAAA!" may not be quite as awesome as last year's "Veronica Mars is smarter than me," but it certainly comes close.
funky-donut: Word, misskiwi. I loved the entire reveal scene. Veronica's magician schtick had me cracking up. I loved her calling out Ms. Hauser for her extremely poor treatment of Jackie. The only thing that would have made it better would have been if she could have somehow gotten Madison in trouble too...although, depriving her of Catalina was definitely a good thing.
misskiwi: Yeah, but I'd pay a lot of money to see Madison trapped in a photo booth with an aggressive sheep.
Polter-Cow: I had mixed feelings about that parlor scene, misskiwi. On paper, it seems as if it should have been fun and entertaining, but I felt Kristen overdelivered the whole schtick. It wasn't bad, per se, but, like most things in this episode, I found it a bit off.
marks of love: I think I know what you're talking about, Cow, but on the whole, I disagree. With such a self-contained episode as this, there was no action-packed or emotionally meaningful reveal, so for this to work as the climax, it had to be delivered with pizzazz. Plus, so funny.
wyk: I liked Kristen's acting in that scene. Veronica was intentionally being over-the-top as a reaction to Ms. Hauser's blantant slander and J.B.'s blatant lies.
alliterator: After her successful probe, Veronica pulled a GOB.
misskiwi: Don't insult the lady's magic ability. I mean, illusions. And I agree, it was Veronica acting badly. I think I can crawl out of my shame corner from being duped two weeks in a row. At various points in the episode, I suspected Weevil and Ms. Hauser of stealing the money and was waiting to see what the guy with Ms. Hauser's keys was guilty of. So I guess that either makes me really dumb or really smart.
topanga: I had no idea who-dunit either. And it made me feel better that it took Veronica a few false starts to figure out the culprit(s). It kinda bothered me that Weevil introduced his six-year-old niece to a life of crime.
grim squeaker: I understand your concerns about little Ophelia, topanga. It was an interesting parallel to how Logan used Hannah, since I'm not really sure Ophelia did totally grasp what she was doing to help financing Uncle Eli's new car — which, by the way, is green just like Mac's less-than-legally earned beetle, which also appeared in this episode. I hope Weevil at least shared the booty with her.
Polter-Cow: The MotW didn't have nearly enough oomph to it, though the twisty-turny bits at the end redeemed it some. It was just Veronica jumping from conclusion to conclusion and getting nowhere. Although it's kind of sweet that her first suspect did turn out to be the culprit, so she's not totally off her game. And we got a couple nice blue flashbacks.
misskiwi: If you think about it, Veronica was totally on her game — Weevil was just a step ahead of her. He had it in the backpack, but moved it before she checked. He had it in the ball pit, but moved it before she checked it. He planted cash in the auto shop, which she then searched. The only misstep Veronica took was her initial suspicion of Jackie.
In a related topic, despite the fact that we weren't being duped this week or left out of the loop, has anyone else noticed the dearth of Veronica Voiceovers in the last few episodes? I'm not sure what to make of it, but it's odd.
funky-donut: I did notice that, misskiwi, and while it's nice not to have the network "explain this for the slower members of our audience" voiceovers forced on us, I miss the regular voiceovers, with their little bits on insight into Veronica's thoughts.
alliterator: We need more "I repeat, damn"s as well as scenes with Lamb...s.
marks of love: I'm a bit bewildered that there's a concern over Veronica being off her game. After the FBI-duping of "Donut Run", I am desperately ready for mortal-sized, mistake-making Veronica to come back. Please, V. Be wrong. Mess up. Remember back in S1 when half the time solving the mystery meant going too far, hurting people, and discovering that miscreants like Rick and Pete had human reasons for doing what they did? And then, you know, she felt bad? I liked that. I don't like infallible!Veronica. And I liked Veronica's inability to completely solve this mystery. Yay.
misskiwi: I actually agree. I liked that she was right but got outsmarted by someone who knows her tactics and how she thinks.
Polter-Cow: I did like that, misskiwi. What bothered me about Veronica's investigation is that it didn't seem to be very...investigative. She just walked around and thought about various places you could hide a money box. BUT SHE DIDN'T CHECK THE FRELLING PIE BOXES. Because that was my theory, and it was awesome, and what was the point of all those pies, huh?
alliterator: Stop despairing: they were a red herring.
misskiwi: Jackie is the new (old) Veronica. Discuss.
topanga: Yes and no. Yes, in that Jackie now knows what it's like to have the entire school turn against her in an instant. Veronica has numbed herself to that pain and has used anger at her classmates to her advantage. However, seeing Jackie get doused in the dunk tank repeatedly by cruel students reminds Veronica how much it can hurt to be the outcast. It seemed to draw them together and thaw (somewhat) the chill between them. They might eventually become friends. Also, Jackie's a much nicer person these days, which makes her easier to like.
No, in that Jackie didn't fall from a high social position. Yes, she's an 09er, but she's still the new kid. It seems like her only friends were Wallace and Cora. And Madame Sophie. But her personality has indeed changed. Jackie 2.0 is much more likeable and easier to be around than Jackie 1.0. On the other hand, I think most people prefer badass Veronica 2.0 to wimpy, pep-squad Veronica 1.0.
I like that Wallace was the one who tried to cut Jackie down from her proverbial flagpole by throwing softballs over the fence.
Polter-Cow: They're really trying to make us like Jackie, aren't they? I agree with misskiwi that they're turning her into the new (old) Veronica. While it seems totally ridiculous for the entire school to turn against her like that, it's also totally in-character for Neptune. And, I suppose, high schools everywhere. There's this herd effect where a sentiment just spreads like a virus, and you've got to be cool and hate who everyone else hates.
Also, um, I still don't hate Jackie now. I mean, maybe if I watched her previous episodes now, I wouldn't hate her as much then either. Or maybe I would, because she was a total annoying bitch. Anyway, I think they're actually doing a good job making us like Jackie because it's kind of a side product of things that have to occur as part of the bus crash mystery, you know? And with Jackie helping them out last week, it's not unlikely for Veronica to be warming up to her, especially when she empathizes with her circumstances. And Wallace very deliberately throwing the balls into left field was a nice gesture. So I don't think "LIKE JACKIE!" is being forced down our throats; I feel it's pretty organic. It does seem to come out of nowhere because of her extended absence, though.
marks of love: Jackie was the new Lilly, sans the filter of Veronica's love, serving to highlight how far Veronica has come since she followed the popular alpha bitch around. Now she's the new old Veronica, but like topanga said, her fall from grace lacks emotional resonance. I was more fond of Meg first being the new old old Veronica, but eh. She sold the dunking scene, I felt sympathy, Wallace owns with a mighty ownage, the end. (Drugs? What drugs? Continuity is for losers.)
Polter-Cow: Nuh uh! Continuity is for winners...who haven't...won...yet. I'm sure the pills will rear their tiny little heads when appropriate. They're in the credits, after all.
alliterator: But if she takes more of those, she will get an overdose. No more running to the shelter of Jackie's little helper. Doctor, please, some more of these — crap, now I'm singing a Rolling Stones song. That's just wrong.
chris1010: Earlier in the season I wouldn't have believed that they could turn this character around, but I guess they have; I don't hate her anymore. Tessa Thompson has also been doing a very good job in the last two episodes.
wyk: Why are you guys suprised about this development? This is what the writers do. They introduce a "bad guy" and then add layers and backstory to make the characters more three-dimensional and somewhat more likeable. [See Logan, Lamb, Clemmons, Koontz, Wiedman, etc.]
chris1010: I'm not surprised they tried to make her likeable; I'm surprised they managed to do it.
funky-donut: Can I just say how hilarious I found it that not only was J.B. cheating to try and beat his "nemesis" Veronica, he was cheating on a health test! Dude, in my high school, health was basically a free A. That just cracked me up. Cheating on calculus, cheating in history, you know, those would all be morally reprehensible, especially to beat someone for a scholarship worth tons o' money. But when you're cheating on a sex ed test...you've got issues.
misskiwi: Well, from a purely logical standpoint, Ms. Hauser's tests are the only ones he can readily cheat on since he has (a) her code to the photocopier and (b) her keys, at least temporarily. And he mentioned that he was only a small fraction of a point behind her, so he would only really need to raise his mark in one class to bring up his GPA enough to edge her out. Ms. Hauser told Corny and Weevil that her upcoming test is worth thirty percent of their grade, so that would probably do the trick.
alliterator: A one-page test is worth thirty percent? That's bent!
wyk: The writers love recycling.
"Return of the Kane": Madison uses her position as student aide to make copies of the ballot results. Veronica says they can look up the copier code to find the guilty party.
"Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough": J.B. uses his position as student aide to make copies of a test. Veronica says they can look up the copier code to find the guilty party.
If J.B. is so smart, why didn't he learn anything from Madison's experience? And speaking of Madison, the 09ers must really like her. She lost her student council position last year because of the election tampering, yet the kids voted for her to be on student council once again this year.
misskiwi: And you'd think the teachers would clue in that student aides can be more trouble than their worth. My biggest problem with the J.B./Veronica "feud" is, with all the time Veronica spends running around saving the day and kidnapping babies, when is Veronica studying to make the kind of marks to put her at the top of the senior class? Is she just that good?
topanga: Remember, this is the same girl who slept in class and often missed classes last year.
misskiwi: But who could flawlessly recite Pope mere seconds out of being pulled from a nap. Wait, did I just counter my own argument?
grim squeaker: I think you did...but I agree. One or two scenes where Veronica just sits somewhere learning instead of solving cases probably wouldn't hurt. Admittedly, the last time we saw her presumably doing homework was when Keith told her Meg had died, so maybe learning every three episodes or so is enough for the Kane Scholarship?
marks of love: Hey, even I do my homework once every three weeks. Man, sign me up for some of that sweet manna from Kaneland!
misskiwi: Come to think of it, I barely studied for finals in high school. Also, HEE! The test for Ms. Hauser's Health class is on "Alcohol and Alcoholism," so I think J.B. would need to cheat to beat Veronica on that one.
alliterator: Veronica does know booze, so in class she can snooze.
misskiwi: Cram it, Dr. Seuss.
Polter-Cow: One thing I really missed about this show is how bloody high school it's supposed to be. Yeah, teen noir, whatever, but I love the world of Neptune High for being the world of Neptune High. I think this episode broke the record for number of returning characters in a teaser. So I liked seeing all the high school stuff, but at the same time, the whole teaser felt really unfocused. And yet, it was actually unfocused in a way that I usually like, because I like when the scenes kind of transition from one to the next, where characters walk to one place, and another character is in the background, so the action shifts to them. Either I wasn't in the right mood, or it just wasn't done well.
misskiwi: Well, since I loved it, I'm gonna go with not in the right mood.
funky-donut: Yeah, I loved that it was mostly set in the carnival. It was at about the halfway mark on first viewing that I said to myself, "Wait, they're not cutting to tomorrow? We're staying here? Cool!" I kept expecting a jump forward in time, but it just kept intercutting between the carnival and Keith and Terrence, and I thought that rocked.
Polter-Cow: What was done well, however, was the continuity they threw at us like pie. Corny, Madison, Ms. Hauser, Thumper, Cora (Cora, for fuck's sake!), Jane, Mac, the Kane Scholarship, a mention of Mr. Pope and FBLA, Tom Griffith, the Tritons, the "Girl Next Door" prank...it was kind of ridiculous, really. As I said before, I love the world-building on the show.
grim squeaker: Continuity-wise there is even more: the plot has some similarities to "Like a Virgin" — right down to Veronica letting a friend get away with the crime and that person using their newly "earned" money to buy a green car — and Mac and Beaver's revenge reminded me of the "M.A.D." storyline, which is especially funny considering that these were the episodes those two characters first appeared in respectively.
wyk: Speaking of continuity, I like Clemmons's growing respect for Veronica. In the pilot, he was a jerk who thought of Veronica as just a troublemaker. Then in "Betty and Veronica" he acknowledges the fact that she has some pretty good detective skills when he asks her to find Polly. In "My Mother, the Fiend" he uses her detective skills in order to take down Principal Moorehead. And by this episode, he totally listens to her when she suggests moving the metal detectors, emptying the ball pit, and searching the lockers in autoshop. Even though they aren't BFF, it's nice to see this relationship slowly evolve.
alliterator: Clemmons is no lemon...s. Okay, I don't even know what that means. Somebody stop me before I say, "Pork and beans."
Polter-Cow: The Keith/Terrence scenes were all very good. It was good to see him again, and it was good to see more of him as a character. We finally found out what he was talking to Woody about at the field trip (and did anyone do a double-take because they thought they heard him say, "...do the colored commentary"?). And we got backstory about Mrs. Dumbass and learned that the Fitzpatricks are involved in EVERYTHING. I swear, by the end of the season, we're going to find out that the Fitzpatricks killed Lilly Kane.
I said way back when we first heard the gambling accusations that the wording pretty clearly implied that Terrence had thrown a game, so I wasn't surprised by that. I don't know if it was supposed to be a bigger deal, but it was clearly a huge deal for Keith, and Enrico Colantoni rocked the hell out of that scene. Shattered dreams are never fun. Finding out your hero isn't so heroic is just part of growing up. Or hitting middle age. You go, Keith. You defend that innocent man.
misskiwi: Yeah, I wasn't even slightly surprised that Terrence had thrown a game to erase his gambling debts. I loved their scenes, too. Poor Keith and his hero-worship.
grim squeaker: I liked them as well. Keith was shrewd and in the end, yet again disappointed by a person he trusted and Terrence...was hot. Yeah I know, shallow.
chris1010: While Enrico did rock, I found these scenes a bit boring. Except for the early baseball-bomb reveal and the Fitzpatricks connection, there wasn't much new or interesting.
funky-donut: While I agree with you, chris, that there wasn't a lot new, I enjoyed the way Keith kept bonding with Terrence and then blind-siding him with something else he knew. Like, "Man, I love you, you're the greatest ever, but hey, tell me about this secret relationship, why don't you?" And he did it to him repeatedly. And Enrico knocked their final scene out of the park, heh. His feelings of betrayal, hurt, seeing a hero fall off a pedestal...all very well done, I thought.
topanga: Rico is awesome. Period. The tear in his eyes...there are no words.
alliterator: I agree, you could taste the sad. That only ever happens when Keith's being a dad. Enrico's just plain rad.
misskiwi: My favorite was the "Is there anything you don't know?" line and the delivery of it. Too funny, because I'm sure Keith and Veronica often give that impression to people.
Polter-Cow: This Hannah girl is cute. Even though the whole Logan/Hannah courtship was very strange and awkward and Jason Dohring looked extremely bored this entire episode. But ooh, what a payoff. As soon as I saw her father, I had one of those great "Oh, fuck" moments. Of course, my immediate reaction was, "Yeah, Logan, macking on the daughter of the guy who's fingering you for murder isn't so hot," but I now realize that Logan knew who he was macking on. That sneaky bastard.
wyk: Oh no, Polter-Cow thinks Hannah is cute. His other VM crushes ended up dying of a blood clot and being stuffed in an ice machine. Poor Hannah. She doesn't stand a chance.
misskiwi: May she soon rest in peace.
alliterator: He really is the Cow of Pain. Don't touch my Jane!
chris1010: Initially I thought Logan and to some degree Jason were off the entire episode, until the big reveal — then all of a sudden the odd behavior makes perfect sense.
misskiwi: I should have clued in from the previouslies that Dr. Griffith was going to come into play at some point, but they cleverly made me forget that detail by making me thoroughly enjoy the episode.
marks of love: Word. Also, I know lots of people hated Logan/Hannah, but I really enjoyed it. I didn't know what Logan's deal was, but it interested me. Possibly because...uh...Logan is interesting? I guess part of what I liked was seeing Logan with somebody we don't already know. The patterns for his interactions with Dick, Duncan, Weevil, Veronica, Aaron, authority figures, etc. are already well-established. This was new territory. Good times, yo. I am highly curious to see where this goes.
grim squeaker: I liked this whole setup on hindsight, though I didn't clue in until the good Dr. Griffith arrived — before it seemed kind of a random hookup with very unusual behavior from Logan's side. Afterwards, it all made sense, right down to Logan's "Mommy will love it" argyle sweater. Did he inherit Duncan's wardrobe? Although I love the idea that he was emulating Duncan in order to seem more respectable. Stringing Hannah along in order to get her daddy is pretty cold, but I...liked it. Going the Marquis de Valmont route is a whole new level of ruthlessness for Logan, and seems much more focussed than his usual patterns of revenge. I pity Hannah, she's between a rock and a hard place and doesn't even realize it.
chris1010: While I don't expect Veronica and Weevil to hook up, I loved their scene in the end. Kristen Bell did some amazing work; I loved her "love...of rollercoasters" delivery.
topanga: Me, too, chris! The way she said "love" and pointed at her chin sounded like the beginning of a corny, 1960s hippie poem. Kristen nailed that line, again. Hmm, I think there's a theme here.
marks of love: Uh, that wasn't supposed to be taken as Veronica/Weevil foreshadowing, was it? No, no it wasn't. But as much as I liked this scene, what a weirdly flat ending. I need punch. Give me the sweet, sweet puuuunnnnchhhhhhh.
grim squeaker: I agree with marks. I think it was definitely a confirmation that Veronica likes Weevil, but certainly not of love or lust on her side. As for him, I'm sure he thinks she's hot and he likes her, but that's about it. Besides, I can't even begin to imagine what Keith would do if Veronica got home with Weevil as her newest boyfriend.
Polter-Cow: I agree with marks on the flat ending. That was no "Then it wouldn't be a secret." Where's the punch?
alliterator: I agree, it needed punch. Solved by the addition of Prof. Munch!
wyk: I liked the parallel between Veronica and Weevil's suddenly-an-outcast hairstyles. After Veronica's horrorific sophomore year, she cut off long blonde locks to show that she isn't that girl anymore. After Weevil gets jumped out of the PCHers, he shaves his goatee and grows out his hair. Maybe by the end of the season, Weevil can have those cute pigtails that we so dearly miss.
misskiwi: You guys are going to give me nightmares with this Veronica/Weevil talk.
grim squeaker: One topic that came up in discussions I had about this episode a lot was how differently Diane Ruggiero seems to write Dick from everyone else: in episodes by other writers, he is usually ignorant and dumb, but also very funny, while he often seems to have quite a dark edge in her outings. This is especially true for "Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough", where he seems to go to relatively great length to humiliate his brother and it somehow seems even nastier than his normal behavior. (And I'm using "normal" in a very relative sense here.)
So, what is it? Is Beaver not allowed to have girlfriends Dick didn't handpick? Can he not have fun without his brother orchestrating everything? Is it impossible for him to go out with a girl who is not vapid, bitchy and shallow an 09er?
Or is it all of the above? Methinks Dick doesn't like his control of Beaver slipping away, and slip it does, if that last scene is any indication.
marks of love: ...Can I touch your brain?
chris1010: I'm still flabbergasted by the fact that Dick has seen Ghost World.
Polter-Cow: Well, I was surprised he'd seen Ordinary People, so maybe he does watch movies, even if he doesn't get them.
misskiwi: Word, grim, but my curiosity is more piqued by Beaver's reference to "Remember Sally?" and Dick's subsequent reaction than any motivations Dick might have to torment his little brother and his choice of girlfriend. If I had to guess, I'd say that Dick had previously antagonized Beaver and the Beav retaliated against "Sally."
funky-donut: Hmm, see, I took it that Dick had done something bad to this Sally and Beaver has proof that could send Dick to jail. But I like your theory, although it's just more fuel for the "Beaver is Evil" theorists. Which, actually, I'm down with, because I like layers.
grim squeaker: Not that he can't have layers without being "Evil." We have several characters on the show who are not very morally upright, but still in the realm of "good" — from Cliff who takes on all kinds of tawdry clients to Mac who uses her classmates to make money to Vinnie Van Lowe who cheats on his clients for the highest bidder to, finally, Clarence Wiedman who fakes crucial evidence to protect his employers.
I interpreted the scene more on the lines of Dick doing something to Sally and Beaver knowing about it. I mean, I'm sure Beaver knows all kinds of horrible stunts Dick pulled, but up until now he didn't use this material against him. And after he mentioned the name, Dick looked rather more like Whoops. Did anyone hear that? than Damn, better not irritate the Beav before he kills my pet gerbil again.
misskiwi: Well, think about it. Dick is about to punch Beaver. Beaver says that if he hits him, he will suffer worse. Then he says, "Remember Sally?" So I think either Sally was a girl Dick was into that Beaver used in some kind of retaliation plan, or, which just came to me, Sally might have been a girl Beaver liked that Dick tormented similar to Mac and Beaver did something bad to him.
Polter-Cow: Hm. This "Remember Sally?" line comes just a few seconds after Bambi_Gasm's "What do you call yours?" line. Put two and two together, guys.
misskiwi: Is Dick dumb enough to fall for the same thing twice? Wait, never mind. But that interpretation doesn't make sense. When Beaver says "Remember Sally," he's implying some sort of punishment he would inflict on Dick if he punches him. Why would he refer to tricking Dick into making out with a guy when he just did that? It's got to refer to something Beaver had previously done to Dick, to scare him into backing off by reminding him what Beaver is capable of when provoked.
grim squeaker: But if it was something Beaver had done earlier to Dick I wonder why he never threatened him with it the ten thousand other times we have seen Dick tormenting him. Yikes! One tiny scene — so many possible interpretations. I bet the writers are laughing their heads off.
Polter-Cow: In case I wasn't clear, I was implying that Sally is the name of Dick's...dick.
misskiw: Oh! HA! Not "little Dick"? Which I am so going to call him from now on.
grim squeaker: I...have no words.
alliterator: Dick is a prick who is thick when it comes to chicks. No pun intended; now my rhymes have ended.